angry health rant
29 October, 2007 by blue soup
I feel so angry with the health service for not adequately informing me when I was young enough to potentially protect myself. Did you know the Pill increases your chances of cervical cancer? Yes, women, you did. They tell you that. But they don’t tell you why, do they? They just say, “Well, it’s a negligible increase” and prescribe it anyway.
Let me now clear up WHY you’re more at risk of cervical cancer if you are on the Pill, ladies.
Most women I know are not slappers. They don’t sleep around. We are far too conscious of the prevalence of Chlamydia and the Clap to not use condoms with our partners. But many women go on the Pill for a secondary measure, peace of mind. If the condom splits, ok, a simple STI swap will rule out any infections, and the Pill will prevent pregnancy.
It’s not rocket science. It’s common sense.
But what about all those committed relationships. Several months down the line when you feel real trust in your partner. You care about each other, you have “the talk”. If there are any doubts, you get checked out. When you get the all clear, given that you are in a committed relationship you ditch the rubbers. I mean, you’re both clean and monogamous. The only worry now is an unwanted kiddy winkle – which the Pill prevents.
Except when you do go to the charmingly named GUM clinic and get told you are all clear – even if you have bloods taken – it could be crap. They don’t test for HPV, this silent and generally harmless virus (incidentally, it isn’t just transmitted by sexual contact, but that is the most common way of passing it on). Why not?
Well, everyone has it. What is the point? It’s generally harmless.
Generally, yes.
Apart from those women like me who are the “unlucky ones”. For whatever reason, be it that we get a “high risk” strain (there are over 100 strains and you may have any number in your system at any one time) or that we have low immune systems. The virus fucks up our cells.
Ah, but that is what the routine smear is for.
BULL CRAP! If you had educated me at age 14 when I had sex ed that this virus even exists at all, I might have stood a fucking chance.
I am not the kind of girl to sleep around without using protection, no matter how much I joke about being a slapper. It is my sense of humour. I know in my heart that I am not like that. I have had four longterm relationships in my life and a few others that looked promising but were snuffed out earlier than perhaps I had expected them to be. And just because we were monogamous, doesn’t mean that somewhere along the line, one of my partners didn’t pick it up. All it takes is that one person. It doesn’t matter if you save yourself until marriage. Your husband may love you with all his soul but may be carrying this virus and then you get it too. It doesn’t matter how pure you are, or whether you are a little harlot, this virus attacks all ages, races, socio-economic backgrounds.
There are generations of women out there who are totally unaware of this. I only know because I am one of the unlucky ones. I cried to my doctor back in Little City when the first smear came back with mild changes: “why has this happened to me?” He patted my hand and told me it was nothing to be concerned about. He didn’t mention any cause, he said that sometimes it just happens and not to worry.
At my MRI scan, while I was shaking before they put me in the tube, the consultant said that “HPV is very common, cervical cancer isn’t” but even then that was all she said.
And now people are up in arms about giving this vaccine to young girls, saying it will promote promiscuity and sex at a young age. There is a stigma attached to this because so often it is related to sex. What? Are we supposed to forever snigger about it because it is a dirty word?! For goodness sake, what century are we living in?! It just shows that we really haven’t progressed far at all. People are condemning girls like me to futures of pain and distress and ultimately an aggressive cancer simply because we did the dirty deed. Misogynistic bastards.
Let me tell you, when I was younger, it never crossed my mind that having sex could potentially lead to any of this. I knew to “wrap up” to protect against the STIs that were well-known, but when I got into a longterm relationship with a lad I loved, well, we were both “clean”. But were we? And which one was it? If I had known about all of this, maybe I would have said “no, love you to bits, but we’re still using condoms.”
It is imperative that they add this to the sex education agenda. Our children need to learn about it. They need the chance to protect themselves.
Underage sex is a whole other issue. If our kids are fucking each other earlier, we need to look at the societal reasons why. Withholding vital information will not stop these kids shagging in bus shelters. Are we really so foolish to believe that education about sex will lead to them doing it? They all know about it anyway!!! You let your sons and daughters watch Hollyoaks and Eastenders for crying out loud. They are bombarded with it day in, day out by the media. If the little blighters are going to have sex, they are going to bloody well do it, so you might as well help them be safe.
God this makes me so angry!!! I was legal when I “lost it”. It was with a guy I was head over heels for. It was just what it should have been. I have been relatively sensible in the 8 years since I “became a woman”. And still I am in this fucking mess now. The media’s decision to hype up stories about this “sex jab” is totally irresponsible and an insult to women like me everywhere. This is a serious issue, which should have been covered with gravity and sense. I still feel undereducated about it and have so many questions for the consultant on the day of my op. And don’t get me started on the ignorant fuckwits on the discussion boards.
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and reading this part of me is so very scared…i’ve been on the pill non stop for 10 years. i’ve had 3 long term partners that like you said, after the testing and ‘the chat’ the condoms go…i’ve had loads of tests but probably not for HPV….
it makes me feel very ignorant and really quite scared that i don’t actually know enough about all of this.
i’ve had two smears come back inconculsive, in which they are now monitoring me. i feel like i should go back and demand more tests, demand a test for hpv.
i am completely with you on your rant and sending tons of good thoughts your way x
Hey hun,
Don’t be scared about it. Just talk it through. Two inconclusive (borderline) results really mean nothing to worry about. They’ll just monitor you. If it goes up to CIN1, then speak to them about the chances of progression. Honestly, most cases revert back to normal. It is rare to get to CIN3, and rarer still that these changes will go on to develop into cancer. They estimate 10 years so as long as we are all careful and have regular smears, we will be fine. It is just because mine have been crappy from the word “go”.
If you have any worries, just talk to your practice nurse and she will reassure you. I know it’s easy to get frightened about these things, and I’m not a great person to talk to because my rational self is marred by the fear I have at the moment.
Just look after yourself honey, and keep up those pap tests when they call you in for them x
The news issue of the vaccinations for young girls has allowed a really good discussion to take place (which otherwise it might not have) in this house. I hope it has elsewhere too.
I’d keep away from discussion boards. Let’s be polite ….. not a good source of wisdom, literacy or moral behaviour.
Tricky times, yes. Remember, you have lots of support from your readers.
David - yes and thank you.
I do understand that parents will be concerned about whether the vaccine has been well tested, but frankly, it has been recommended by so many experts with years and years worth of training and research knowledge that I think (for all my hating my doctors) we need to listen to what they are saying.
Again, I want to underline that most women will never experience this severity of reaction, but if this debate (and ranting and raving on blogs all over the world just like this one) means that young people become better educated about this virus, then that is one massively good thing.
Personally, I would leap at the chance to turn the clock back ten years and have this vaccine. It would directly have benefitted me. But I also understand that I am just one individual.
One of the arguments against implementing this immunisation programme is that it will “only save 400 women a year”. I do think you can’t put a price on life and health. While it may “only” save 400 LIVES, it will mean that THOUSANDS more women will be spared the humiliation, pain and worry that treatment of PRE-CANCER (let alone the big C.C).
And how humiliating, painful and worrying is it? Well, here at Blue soup you have seen the worry and humiliation. I will document the pain. Don’t you bloody worry about that.
Thank you EVERYONE for taking the time to comment and (above all) to email me privately and send me lots of love and luck and happy thoughts. xxxx
I went on the pill as my period are irregular and it sorted me out lots.
I know you are pretty angry but take a look at this - http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1065&id=1455692007
I dont know who told you that it helps cancer as i do not believe that to be entirely true. I did have the same fear but spoke it through with my mum who is a nurse and knows a lot of people who deal with the pill etc.
I dont believe all the news and hype. I think you have to take it with a pinch of salt. One day they say it does and another it doesnt. So who are we to believe.
I think for you right now it is hard to believe anything else when you have been so badly treated.
Big hugs to you honey. Its gonna be ok. x
“I dont know who told you that it helps cancer as i do not believe that to be entirely true.”
Fab, your comment has confused me and I am not sure whether you have misread my post. HPV is the virus that I am talking about. This vaccine protects against two (of the four) main strains that can lead to cervical cancer (note, they don’t always lead to cervical cancer, but 95% of women diagnosed with cervical cancer turn out to have these strains of HPV). The more people you sleep with without using a condom, the greater your chances of sleeping with someone carrying the virus and so the greater your chances of contracting it. Use of the Pill is linked to people choosing to use that as their only method of contraception, again increasing their chances of contracting HPV. This is simple mathematics and the Pill has been linked to not using condoms all the time. (Indeed, many many girls just stop using condoms altogether when on the Pill, and don’t even bother to have “the talk” with their partner about whether they are STI-free or not at all).
The Pill may have a link to reducing cervical cancer in terms of medical make up - but using it has been linked to altering sexual behaviour. Not in a deviant sense. Simply as explained above. If you are on the Pill, you are less likely to use condoms (esp in a longterm relationship) and even in a longterm relationship, your partner may already be carrying HPV.
That is where this rant is coming from. So many arguments like this have two sides that are equallky compelling. In my case, I am inclined to believe the side I believe. Fact is, if I hadn’t been on the Pill, I would have always always always used condoms. It was knowing that me and my partner(s) were “STI-free” (before I even knew about HPV) that made me stop using condoms and rely on the Pill to protect against pregnancy (my only fear given that I was not worried about STIs) and therefore made me vulnerable to HPV, a virus that they have done bugger all to educate or publicise in the UK.
You are so right soupy - I think many women (me included) have had the chat with a long term partner and gone without condoms - I had STI tests but came back clear. You’re right that it’s rare to get to the CIN3 I had (lucky me, eh) but at least it was operated on v.quickly (if very unsympathetically). Though it’s not something you get to ever totally leave behind - as I am still on the camera-check ups. (oh joy - the dignity…
and I worry sometimes too.
So yes to the vaccine, absolutely. It if saves women from this, so much the better. But also a very firm YES to education, as you say, to tell people about HPV. I knew nothing about it till this happened to me - aged 30! So much for sex education.
Hello you,
I agree with you about educating our children early on. And as LG says, I too didnt know anything about it until earlier this year! Subsequent emotional fallout from this is immense, as is having underage sex which again, I agree is a totally different debate entirely.
I hope that getting it off your chest here has helped to ease things a little. I would recommend you stay away from the boards if only to keep calm yourself. Ignorant people cannot be expected to debate intelligently about pro’s and cons - especially when they are coming from a place of fear; however unfounded or skewed you and I may think it is.
There is a push from govt to try and start educating and enabling people to not be in the same kinds of situations you find yourself in. there is hope
big hugs x
Well f**king said.
Great rant.
ok i think i got your post a bit wrong. x
I remember in 2004 when I had a pap smear the doctor asked if I could take part in a study for HPV and she explained to me what it was. I was pretty surprised because I’d never really heard of it up until then and I’d been on the pill for 10 year at that point.
When I got my most recent pap (2007) they tested for HPV without even asking. I asked about it and the doctor said it was required for every pap now.
Also a year or so ago there was a HUGE campaign in Canada about HPV and to ask your doctor and get tested.
So, at least somewhere in the world they are educating people about it!